Visalus Sciences Review – Scam or Money Maker?

by Damien Willis on July 15, 2010

Visalus Sciences ReviewOne of the problems when you are shopping for an MLM opportunity is sorting out the good companies from the crappy ones and even the ones that are scams. So which category does Visalus Sciences fall into? Is it legitimate or a scam? If it’s not a scam is it any good? Find out in this Visalus Review.

The Company

Visalus Sciences has actually been around for quite a while now but haven’t hit the big time yet. This is either good or bad depending on your point of view. They are established so they are less likely to go out of business than a brand new company but haven’t reached its potential. Although to be fair, according to Npros.com they have grown by 54% in the last 6 months so maybe they are on their way up.

It is based in Michigan and Ryan Blair is the CEO. The people behind the company have a lot of experience in the MLM industry and seem to know what they are doing which gives Visalus a solid foundation.

The Products

They have a number of health products. Visalus Vi-Shape is their weight loss product which according to their website compares favourably to their competitors’ products. Visalus Vi-Pak is designed to give your body the nutrition it needs and Visalus Neuro is an energy drink mix made with healthy ingredients to boost your mental and physical performance. All these products present well and seem to be the equal of any of its competitors.

The Opportunity

Visalus uses a unilevel pay plan which is a proven pay plan and has been used by many successful companies so there are no problems here. They also have a luxury car program where top distributors are rewarded with a BMW. According to their website they have given over 700 distributors BMW’s.

Is it a scam?

It is clear that Visalus is not a scam but that is no guarantee that you well have success in this company.

One problem with Visalus, as with most companies, is they don’t seem to have any marketing training to help its distributors. A good company can certainly help you to achieve success quicker but without the proper training you are going to struggle no matter how good the company is.

Summary

After this Visalus Review, you can be sure that Visalus Sciences is a legitimate business. Unfortunately most people will never make the money that they would want out of Visalus because they don’t know how to market properly. Sadly most people don’t even know how to generate a single lead!

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DanoP 5 pts

I started this diet 3 weeks ago.  I was at 250 lbs.  Since then ( I drink 2 shakes a day) I am down 15lbs and am down to 135.  This is not a scam to me and I have personally seen positive results and plan on continuing with the program.  

Peechuz_JLWalker 5 pts

 DanoP 

Hi there, how long did it take you (total) to get down this far?  I have been on the program for about 2 weeks and am down 6 pounds and inches (however, I don't know how many - my clothes are much looser).  I'm trying not to weigh myself very much - I'd rather wait awhile.  Just wanted to see how long it has taken you so far.

DanoP 5 pts

 Peechuz_JLWalker  DanoP 3 Weeks for the 15 pounds.  I posted this comment at my 3 week mark.  

I have to say if there is a diet out there, I have tried it.  I have tried every shake, diet supplement and appetite suppressent just about on the market.  THese shakes are wonderful.  They taste great, are filling and I have an amazing amount of energy.  I have only been doing this a little over a week, but how difficult is 2 shakes a day and one regular meal (by the way, I eat anything I want for that one meal).  I have lost 5 pounds.  That is pretty good since I am 49 (nearly 50) and have a hard time losing weight.  I do count calories ( the Lose It app is my best friend) but this is still easier.  I also work out 7-8 hours a week and still don't lose weight easy.  I am NOT selling this, am simply a customer, but so far I love it.  I am very skeptical about everything, but so far so good.  As for the shakes at a health food store, too sweet and hard to get down.  (again, tried nearly all of them).  You know each to your own, but this is a pretty good deal.  I only bought the 99 dollar pkg.  I get enough shake mix for a month (two a day).  Again, not a bad deal.  I spent about 300 dollars on slim 4 life and that was a serious waste of money!  I can't even remember what I spent on Nutrisystems and my dog wouldn't even eat some of that. I don't plan on having a hard time with maintenance b/c I am so active.  I haven't gained any weight in the last year, but can't lose this 20 lbs from the last 8 or so years that have creeped up on me.  Ughhhhhh!  I know different things work for different people, so stick with what works for you.  

Peechuz 5 pts

@Karen I've been an Herbalife customer for years, but not much luck as of late since am now in mid-50s. Thinking of trying this product - how are your results as of late?

I have just completed my first 90 day health challenge. I have lost lbs. and feel the best I have ever felt. I'm sharing this challenge with all my family and friend's. I would like them all to join the challenge, so they will be around longer.  :)      Thank you ViSalus!!

Congratulations Rose! Your a real role model! Keep up the good work and keep heling others.

Note - As I am writing this I am on hold with the Visalus Corporate office - 15 minutes now listening to elevator music. I ordered the business pack in December. I decided to give it a try. The web site said you get 600.00 in product. BS - It was $500.00 and that was at their inflated retail price. That was not a good start for us. After getting through to their office they said it was a typo on their web site and they corrected it. So now I have this product that I paid an inflated price for and we start taking it. Although it was very sweet it didn't taste too bad. Then, upon examining the ingredients we find most of the products are just loaded with sugar. We were hoping for more of a healthy type product, not just a low calorie meal replacement. As most people know, you will lose weight if you reduce your caloric intake but that is only tempory and the weight will come back big time. ( rebound ) Any way, we sent this stuff back mid December and now, January 23 and trying to find out when we will get our money back. I was told their was a thirty day money back guarantee, but obviously that doesn't look like the case. ( still on hold listening to crappy elevator music WTF? ) All I want is to get my money back for all the product and other stuff they sent me. The person who introduced me and her upline both quit so they can't help me either. ( one has a new car she couldn't afford now as her volume fell quite a bit below the qualifications ) People, if you are interested in getting a good quality weight loss program, there are lots of good ones out there. Just don't get sucked into all the hype from Visalus. There is a whole lot more hype then substance. Yes, they have a car program, but make sure you read the fine print as you are responsible for the payments and if your monthy volume goes down, no help from the company. You might be stuck with an expensive car you cannot afford.  It is like the old amway days of fake it before you make it   Finally, someone answered the phone.  If they refuse my refund I will let you know that too!!

THIS WAS GREAT, SUCCESS COMES WITH FAILURE WHETHER ITS VISALUS OR ANY COMPANY IF YOU DONT WORK IT IT WONT WORK

hey ange, copy and paste text (below) at youtube. Great answer. Dr Cheryl Townsley: Vi Shake Protein is NOT genetically modified. Zero Lactose, Zero Estrogen.  

 "Just add discipline"

I want to say that they do have training to help distributors/promoters get on track to get people to check it out.   Most of it would be their training sessions that they have.  I do not know when you last checked to see if they had training or not, but I go to their daily power up calls, and weekly meetings and they give awesome tips on promoting the challenge.  And all the team members apart of this company are all helping each other out in getting the success that you want and deserve.

I am a 6 foot tall single male, retired on a pension at age 47 and started gaining weight.  After retirement and not having to work I found myself gaining weight for the first time in my life.  So I started to monitor my intake of food and found that I was really eating a BUNCH of food so that was step one....eat less.  However, just doing that wasn't enough so I started walking a bit, no major exersize because hey I'm retired and busy with enjoying my life.  I took the next step and spent 8 months writing down every item that I ate, tracked the exact caloric intake of each item, and kept every single receipt for food for 8 months- and lost 6 pounds.    My girlfriend discovered this Vi Shake and I've spent the last 8 days drinking a shake for breakfast and lunch then eating a small dinner and lost more than 6 pounds already! (as of today I'm 212)    8 month TOTAL Cost BEFORE Meal Replacement  =  2,400 8 month TOTAL Cost AFTER Meal Replacement    =  1,200      

grammer?  You cannot even spell that word right

Nick Sarnicola also contributed $1000 to your Cause and doesn't even know you. Does not really sound that greedy to me.

Hi Damien, Visalus seems like a great company. What is the support and training like?

After seeing all of the HYPE about the Body By Vi Challenge, I decided to try some. I told the rep, it was good, but it just tasted like flavored milk to me. After thinking I didn’t give it a fair chance, I signed up to be a distributor. The shakes caused me to GAIN weight AND at the same time, digestive issues that formerly disappeared resurfaced upon introducing this product. It was the ONLY change I made. After trying to deal with the customer service department, I couldn’t get money back for the UNOPENED box of shakes used because I purchased 2 boxes. If the company was so phenomenal and stood behind what they sold, they should have NO ISSUE refunding this. I *HIGHLY* recommend to STAY AWAY…unless of course you’d like to spend your money to gain weight and on doctor’s visits to undo the mess it will cause.

I finally got my money back by reporting them to the BBB. My money was refunded within a couple of weeks. If you haven't gotten a refund yet, I suggest filing a complaint against BBV.

If you are willing to buy and consume these shakes everyday for the rest of your life (artificial sweetners, no thanks) then this is probably the product for you.  All you need to do is watch your calories.  When I did a semester in London and had a very small budget for food every month, I made sure to ONLY BUY HEALTHY food.  I ate chicken, fish, vegetables, milk, eggs, peanuts, cheese, wheat bread and cereal.  Oh my goodeness I was the skinniest I've ever been!  It's hard to commit to eating so healthy, but if you do you will see results.  Pair it with walking and you'll be amazed.  Please avoid shakes (any of them), they aren't a permanent solution.  Spend your money on raw, healthy food.  The money thing seems to be what people focus on and not a healthy lifestyle.  I minored in dietetics in college by the way, not an expert, but educated in the subject.  I'd like to see a full time dietician speak highly of these shakes.  It is dangerous to cut your caloric intake so drastically, it will mess with your metabolism and it won't be able to recover once you stop consuming these shakes.  The trick is eat frequently throughout the day, healthy small portions.  Your metabolism will always be working and trained to burn off the food you eat more efficiently. I don't know why I'm positing this, I usually don't put up posts, but hopefully someone will read this and it will help them.  There is no magical product that will keep you skinny.  It is will power, determination and you can't be lazy about it.

Does anyone know where the product is distributed out of in Canada?

I have done the MLM thing 16 years ago and learned the only ones who made money was who ever collected the cash for all slick ass promotional crap IO bought and still have most of it today in my basement.

  What people fail to realize is that just about every diet will work IF you stick to it.  In order to stick with something you have to like doing it.  Unfortunately most get that "WANT feeling" and wind up cheating and the diet never works.  People WANT to eat what they quit eating when they begin a new diet.  WILL POWER is the key.  Take me for instance, 4 years ago I decided to lose weight.  I am 6' tall and weghed 210 lbs.  I did not look overweight but I did not like the way I felt.  I tried a few diets, but they did not do it for me.  I decided to do the atkins diet.  2 weeks after doing that diet I did not see hardly any weight loss.  I started working out and running every other day.  Two months later I had lost 30 lbs.  The problem with this diet was that I was sick of eating the same foods over and over.  I hated it from the start, everytime I would sit down to eat I did not want to eat but I did.  I was in the habit of working out and I looked and felt great.  Then came the cruel work schedule.  I work shift work 12 hrs a day and switch from day to nights constantly.  I had to work 6 days a week 12 hours a day for several months.  That got me out of my rhythm for my workouts and my eating habits.  When that work schedule was done so was my healthy living.  I eventually gained my weight back over the next two years.  Yes, it was my fault because I had gotten so lazy during those months of non stop work that I was TOO tired to exercise and eating quick food was the only option at the time.  Problem was quick food became the habit.  About a 2 months ago I decided to try the diet thing again.  I'm at my 210 lbs again and just not feeling good.  Doing atkins again was out of the question, the thought of eating that way again just turned me off.  I looked at several diets and was trying to figure out one that would be easy to stay on once I reached my weight.  Of course there were quite a few people coming out the wood work with products for me to try, but if you are overweight dont try to sell me on the diet that is obviously not working for you. Then my wife's cousin came in to her business talking about Visalus.  She had just had baby and was trying to lose some weight.  She said without exercising she had lost 3 pounds in a week.  I was skeptical about this new fad drink.  I asked her how does she use it?  She said she did 2 drinks a day and still ate her regular meal in the evenning.  I told her I dont see how 2 drinks a day in place of my meals will work for me because I LOVE TO EAT.  She told me to try it and if I did not like it she would buy back the rest of the product from me. I ordered this VERY EXPENSIVE transformation kit. $280 shipped!!  Since I was told you could lose weight without exercising I figured I would give it a shot for two weeks and see if I really did lose weight.  BTW, the kit is for a months supply.  All I did was do the drinks for breakfast and lunch and none of the other stuff in the kit. I ate whatever I wanted for supper including pizza some days. 2 weeks later I had lost 5 lbs.  I was surprised since I had not taken the other Metabolism boosting stuff and did over eat during my one meal a day.  What I did find is that the drink actually cut my appetite, I was not hungry like I normally would be.  I did not have the cravings.  The next three weeks I did the drinks but on the weekends I would eat two regular meals each day. I still lost 8 lbs.  I find it very easy to stay on this diet.  I am not die hard with it and the months supply actually lasted a month and a half for me.  I am 13 lbs down now and this week I started running again.  I feel motivated where I did not before.  I cant speak for others, but I do know it works, but so do other diets.  It all depends what you like and dont like.  I could never do an atkins diet again. Like I said above this is a VErY EXPENSIVE weight loss package, but to be honest what I found is that you really only need the powder drink mix.  You will lose weight on it and if you go walking or running a few times a week you will get to your weight without killing yourself doing it.  What I did not realize was that I was going to get another transformation kit 3 weeks after I started the first one....another $280.  I really believe it is way overpriced especially since I did not use everything in the first one.  I contacted the girl that sold it to me and told her to change my order to just the powder for the drink I did not want anything else.  Guess what? I just got another in on Friday for another $280.  I quickly called Visalus and spoke to a rep "Which I recorded" and told her that the girl I dealt with was supposed to change it to just the powder drink mix.  They told me to ship it back via UPS and they would take the charge off my card.  Tomorrow I will ship it back, but will get confirmation that it was recieved.  Also note the box cant be opened and after 5 days they dont accept returns.  Despite what I feel about the business side, I do like the drink mix.  I will not do the business side either.  I got burned in my early 20's twice trying those things and it will not happen again.  I'm 45 now.

The Key is to get in a good upline like we did.  Stay positive and work at it like anything we should do in life.  I love Visalus and my daugther is feeling better every day with Visalus and MS.

what amazes me is how so many people want the quick fix when their health has gone south, Did you all gain this weight in a week? No! it was gained over time. That time you were destroying your bodies with simple fast foods that all have toxic and harmful chemicals. such as pink slime people look it up. If you really want knowledge about health maybe you should stay at home and rent some movies. Here are some suggestuions to better health but simply you must make that choice,"some will, some won't, so what!" I know in my heart i offered to help each and everyone of you to see a better way. Jason hander, SA, Tx. Movies list: Food Matters, Forks over knives, Food inc., king corn are some great documentaries, maybe these movies should be played in moderation based on age to our children in PE courses over their years of education. Then they have the choice with the decisions they want to make in their own lives to live a healthy lifestyle or suffer from degenerative diseases. I'm not a genius nor to i claim to be but people who really want to know the truths should seek it out or ask others information about what they know and the research what they've heard don't just take my word for it research things for yourself. People have just flat out gotten lazy over the years and want only what is convenient or they won't make any effort anymore. The Internet has given us almost everything we seek how hard is it to type on screen or keyboard people. As for NETWORK MARKETING you may want to research that as well, rather than jumping on a bandwagon of a company cause it all sounds good or looks good why don't you look in Network Marketing today or MLM Insider Magazines and look at the lists of best companies rated in the industry or it's field. USANA Health Sciences actually won the Triple Crown in 2010 for this and is an established 19 year old company and has been rated and tested the top supplements and weightloss in the industry of Supplemental nutrition for 5 straight editions in Nutrisearches Comparitive Guide to Nutritional Supplements a 3rd party documented lab and research facility out of Canada. If you don't know another fact Canadian supplements are also tested at a much higher standard than products from North America. I trust Usana because it's products are Pharmacutical grade not FDA grade. Food Grade simply means their ok to consume but it doesn't mean they've been researched safely. It simply means the facility they come from is similar to a health inspectors inspections... No bugs, no messes and no visable signs of to much uncleanliness is all that means people. Watch Some documented movies this weekend and learn more about whats good for you and what isn't.

Okay, okay...so I've just spent the past 10 minutes quickly reading all these comments.  Now, I'm going to throw in my two cents worth. I've never been on diet shakes or pills.  Personally, I don't believe in them.  But here's an option for anyone out there who wants to get healthier (ie, lower your cholesterol, blood pressure, sugar-levels), lose a few pounds and save money..... Go vegetarian! Very simple. And you get your nutrients, such as protein, iron, calcium, from mostly a plant-and-grain based diet. Has anyone here seen the documentary "Forks Over Knives"?  Just finished watching it myself tonight, and it's pretty powerful with a lot of honest and truthful scientific facts.  Also, read the book "Whole Foods To Thrive" by Brendan Brazier; very well written and explains a lot in regards to getting the most nutrients as possible out of grains, veggies and vegetable.  The guy is a former Ironman Triathlete, in case you wanted to know his credentials. These two recommendations are something to really consider.  In the past 2 months, I have switched my eating habits to omit any meat products and dairy, and I've been feeling much better, my skin looks clearer, and my clothes fit better too.  Not that I've had a weight or health problem; my annual check-ups always say that I have a clear bill of health.  But, my grocery bill has gone done quite considerably too.  

Something fishy is going on here.  It's interesting how when one does a search for 'visalus scam', the first sites that pop up are a bunch of bloggers purporting to be experts in some way or another, suggesting they are giving an 'unbiased third party view', and then all saying essentially the same thing about how legitimate the company is.  my guess? it's not, and this is a scam company that has been very clever in learning how to use search engine optimization to ensure that the first sites that come up about it are fake people giving astonishingly positive reviews, not mentioning any cons, once.

hey gang! ive been recruted in this compagny and ive been told not to .. can i have some adive please?

This article is very informative, I really love all the information that you have here. Keep the value coming. Eric Burnett

This thing is like all the others: Both sides can point to "testimonials" from actual people who've had success and who've been burned. What's that say? It says that if one is motivated he or she can achieve a lot, whether it's in MLM or healthy shakes or the Showtime Rotisserie, whatever. I personally am in great shape, eat well and exercise every day. I make a decent living and I just don't need anything else. I will say this: The woman in the video is NOT 72 years old. Not a chance.

can people who suffer from epilepsy take Visalus? I know it's good for those who can eat glutten products or people who are diabetic and such, but what about those who have epilepsy?

This is truly funny - one of the pro-Visalus people on here, who even lists his email address and "title" is someone who is running from bill collectors and other responsibilities.  Plus he looks heavier then he did when he started Visalus a year ago.  Great endorsement...

YOU PEOPLE ARE SO BRAiNWASHED AND CONFUSED..ViSALUS iS A PYRAMiD FOR ONE BECAUSE YOU CANT JOiN UNLESS YOUR UNDER SOMEONE AND TWO BECAUSE YOU MAKE THE COMPANY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND YOU ONLY POCKET HUNDREDS...TO GET 2000 A MONTH YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE COMPANY 15THOUSAND...WTHEK...REALLY...YOUR WASTEN TiME WiTH THiS COMPANY..MY ADViCE iS TO BE A CUSTOMER NOT A DiSTRiBUTOR.

Oh I forgot to say...this company is a no brainer...so putting too much thought in trying to find out why you wouldn't do it before you try it....is too..

I have been in this industry for over 25 years and this is the first business I have found that really starts people off right.  With so many learning tools and contacts to improve on life, health and financial stability...I have listened to some great CDs and DVDs on Marketing and getting leads...so this makes realize that you have not intelligently joined the business and tried it or even deeply researched it to make the comments you have posted.  I have lost weight for the first time in my life without feeling hungry and unsatisfied...and with amazing energy that I have not felt in years....so before you criticize something...really know what you are talking about by your own experience...not by scuffing what you think off the top.....People like you are the birds that the sower's seeds ate...before they could have a chance to live...sorry for you....

Hi, was just reading down through all the comments. Good pros and cons guys, have been looking for something like this on this company for a while now. My Mom was just suckered into becoming a distributor for this company and she too is all fired up about the company. But being a non-trusting person by nature I did a little research on this company and found that every blog, every Youtube video I read or watched was all about the same thing winning a BMW. The other thing I noticed was for every so many products a distributor sells Vitalus sends their product to starving children. These products are being pushed as a safe, easy way to loose weight. So my question is why are they sending these products to kids that are starving...isnt that a little dangerous?

ok..think of this...the children are STARVING!!!! do you think that a fruit shake packed with protein is going to make them lose weight?? its not dangerous...just use common sense..for larger people this shake cuts fat and builds muscle...for starving children, this is a nutritious snack. as for making money..its like any job...you put the time into it you will reap the benefits...the reason there is so much hype for this job is because its easy and work hours are minimal..my friend hasn't worked at all...all he does is let his friends kno about it and in the past month hes made over $1000 for nothing which is very good for his age and for the 2 hours hes put in...ive seen the checks..im actually thinking about becoming involved in this area...if your a comms major then youd make a killing..its all about getting motivated...its easier than practically any other job.

Just read through some of the other posts and to proof my point Dan is one of those rude people who support this company. Didn't give Goldie any advice just attacked the spelling and ended up saying absolutley nothing worth reading...

What do you mean when you say they have been around for some time? This is a vague statement. A long time to me would be 10 years even 15 years.  They were founded in 2005 according to the research I have done. So this makes them a very young company.  I have had the great displeasure in meeting a few of the distributors for this company they are rude,

Visalus does not offer anything original that you can't get from the thousands of other dietary supplement companies. As an avid weight lifter myself, I just don't see the difference. I also don't understand their "meal replacement" ideology; you live off their 200$ a month shake packs, and thus save on groceries. I'm fairly certain that a human being benefits from actual solid food in their diet i.e fruits, vegetables, meat, fish etc. Shakes should be a supplement to a diet, not a diet in itself. Mentally, I would go insane on just drinking shakes 24/7. Biologically, is this sane or even good for your health? If someone who is completely sedentary wants to lose weight, fine, this might be the thing for him or her. However, for weight lifters and active people who have been doing their thing for a few years, I think you can transform your body with normal food and discipline alone. Supplements are just one support plank in the diet.  

mon ami est diabétique et je peux vous dire que,avant de consommé les shakes son sucre était à 14,et, quelques jours après avoir consommé ses shakes son sucre est descendu à 5 ,oui ça fonctionne,mais il y en a toujours qui sont là pour redire sur tout.Donc si tu aimes pas ça bien continue à manger et ,,voilà

Hi there, interesting article.  However contrary to what your article reads, Visalus has excellent marketing training found in the back office of a promoter's website and does offer a money back guarantee that can be enforced with a phone call to the company.

Wow.. well, I have been researching this product and after hearing all these "reviews" I have decided not to "join" the Visalis family. I tried the product yesterday and liked it, however, couldn't sleep at all last night. It did taste great and gave me energy...but I'm not extremely social to where I could get 100 people to join and I work 2 jobs, I'm a single mom of 2 and I need all the rest I can get. Also, I can't afford to dish out a lot of money to a product and not be able to meet the needs required to thrive and succeed. My parents have been in Amway for several years and I know the struggles they have been through, money wise and time wise. It's not as easy as people try to make it sound. But those who have been able to invest time and money into it, congratulations! All of you are in my prayers. Just remember, out of all the "manure" we go through, there has to be a "Golden Pony" in here somewhere!! So keep your heads up and hang in there! God Bless! Jen

I have friends who drive their BMW and are gung ho on this shake. I am 48 have arthritis, fibromyalgia, and myofascial syndrome. I did my own 90 day body challenge. I eat right, don't drink alcohol except on  occasion, no soft drinks, lots of water and joined the YMCA. I feel better, look better and am not spending $50 a month and have no anxiety of trying to make my quota!!!! People, you don't need a damn shake to perform miracles...no such one exist. You can do it on your own. People want a quick fix and one they don't have to work for....lazy is as lazy does!!! Get of your arse and work for your health and body...much more satisfying

Is it possible to find out the ingredients? If you want to show your doctor to see if if the products are safe for you, what can you show them??

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Honestly, I have tried and tried to lose weight. I always end up feeling hungry in the Weight Watchers plan, etc, etc. Can you lose weight by just eating right and exercising? OF COURSE! But for some reason or another I never could! Probably because I don't like the taste of most vegetables and it's hard to work out with Parkinson Disease. The amazing tasting Visalus shakes with V-trim, their product that helps you feel full, WORKED! I am NOT hungry between meals. And if I ever am, I just snack on fruit, carrots and light ranch dressing or string cheese and I'm good to go. I am NOT a Visalus distributor and if the product didn't work, I'd be the first to blow the whistle. So far, two thumbs up!

The issue of proper training COULD be a biggie. In retrospect, I didn't know the people that recruited us did not adhere to the "proper training" advice. So, it took me a while to get on board with my wife. I saw the misinterpreted pay plan, the unexplained business plan....and all kinds of different product questions that couldn't be answered. I wasn't looking for excuses, but if I'm jumping, I need some legit first. I still flinch rectally when I think of what I lost in the last debacle I was reeled into. BUT, I couldn't deny that I had lost 35 lbs in about 70 days. And that's without working out. Even better, no gritty, chalky, boiled egg aftertaste shakes. I'm still amazed of all the nutrition crammed into just one shake. Fortunately I was able to process that a product like this needs some good marketing ideas. So, I dug my heels in, looked further only to find out, that the marketing ideas are already in place. There are lots of newbies just shooting in the dark with this product. So people hear the partial gospel and are harder to approach the 2nd time.  BUT, I examined closer and realized, that just eliminates the same non courageous people from approaching that person the 2nd time. Not me, I consider that a whole new demographic customized for me. So,it does help to reexamine my perspective and adjust positively. Now the NEW training DVD is top notch. Not that the other one was bad but, this is like the "rewritten song" Paul Simon talks about. "Great songs are not written, they are rewritten."  This is truly the best rewrite I've seen. I can have a professional presentation and instruction training available to my new customers and promoters in the same party. It simply takes all of the guessing of "If I commit, where do I go from here?" This definitely answers that concern. AND, I'm absolutely CRAZY about the "I just found out" approach (watch the DVD). I've been a door to door salesmen most of my career, which explains my over analyzing perspective. When I watched this DVD, all my misgivings simply dissipated. It just hit it outta the park for me.  Sure, there will STILL be a lot of excited newbies that cannot resist trying to verbally "demonstrate the vacuum cleaner at the door", if you will, but that's what new people do. Hopefully they will catch on before they fizzle out. Bottom line: The new training DVD is specific and simple. If you follow it and try not to "reinvent the wheel" I'm positive anyone can have success. I know we will. Just press play, and for their sake SHUT UP! If you really care about that new customer/promoter, shut up. Don't "talk through the movie" just shut up. For most, their health depends on it. For most of those, their financial future also could hinge on this opportunity. That's not potatoes on the wall marketing, that's a responsibility. I can only wish I saw this DVD months ago, perhaps We'd be ambassador by now. Regardless, ambassador bound I am Baby!!! This DVD does not need any help. Your just there to press play. What do I do for a living now? I just press play baby!!! WOW!!! dantheshakeman@gmail.com

In terms of what the products are, it's definitely a scam. I wish weight loss shit like this would just go away. Stop trying to convince fat people they can lose weight by drinking shakes. 

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